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Golf Course Review Sand Canyon Country Club Santa Clarita California

Sand Canyon Country Club

Golf Course Review Sand Canyon Country Club Santa Clarita, CA

Reviewed by: weeman68, pasadena
Like many, I had been scared off playing here since it reopened as it sounded like the new name “Sand Canyon” was an unintended piece of anti-marketing, not intended ironically or otherwise. So it was (literally) with some trepidation that I booked a Sunday am round at the rack rate of $90.

As a frequent player here back in the day when it was Robinson Ranch, I didn’t know what to expect based on recent GK reviews and the local word on the street, but upon driving up the long wind to the clubhouse I was pleasantly surprised to see acres of mainly green on what was the old front nine of the Mountain course on the right. The back nine of Mountain to the left has been allowed to go totally to pasture and the native grass and fauna has invaded completely. In fact, you wouldn’t know there was a golf course there until just a few years ago were it not for the cart paths still visible snaking through it.

The Review

Golf Playing Conditions 6.71 GOOD
Golf Playing Conditions 6.71 GOOD

All that said, my Reader’s Digest review is this: the course is back! While not perfect or pristine, it is clear they have been working on it and some parts are actually better than they used to be when it was Robinson.

As alluded to, the back nine of Mountain was sacrificed no doubt as a cost-saving, water-saving move. That saddens me as I think it was the best nine out of the original four, containing the most unique holes, elevation changes and variety (I am thinking of 11, 13, 15-18 for those that remember the layout). It was also longer than mountain front 9 which is probably why it was calved away. In one sign of favorable maintenance, what they now call the ‘Desert’ 9 (the old back nine of ‘Valley’) was closed for over-seeding! A a result, I played ‘Valley’ (the original Valley Course front nine) followed by ‘Mountain’ (the old Mountain course front nine.)

At only around 6200 yards from the blues, I felt this combo was a bit under-powered than under the old routing – still, this is Robinson Ranch so it’s still plenty challenging!

Mountain vs Valley

Valley was generally much greener and in better overall shape than Mountain. The Valley tees were a bit shaggy with a lot of gouges on par 4’s and 5’s so I am not sure who was skying their drives but the crown of someone’s driver was suffering some abuse. Fairways were generally lush with most of the Bermuda recovered and some in-growth from other grasses here and there. Greens looked very good, but they were nappy in spite of just being cut, very slow (7.5 – 8 optimistically on the stimp) and very bumpy. Putts did not track well. Didn’t visit any sand but it looked reasonable and had been groomed for the most part. Only one or 2 bunkers had some weeds in them and looked a little thin and forlorn.

Mountain was less green overall but still favorable lies in the fairways; here they have cleared out more extensive areas to reduce watering. So it looks pretty rough at times, but none of these sandy areas are really in play. Gone is the water feature to the right of 12 too, replaced with agave and other desert plantings. Had it still been here I would have lost the only ball I played the round with. Otherwise, I could now hack it out back into play. Also, from 12 on (and especially 14 & 15) the mountain greens – which were faster and a bit smoother – had some pretty visible issues. A lot of plugging and some limited aeration was visible. 14 was the worst affected with about 40% of the surface bare or clearly under repair. Tee boxes on Mountain were also dry, shaggy and sometimes crowned. I wondered whether they were being killed off for an over-seed.

I would rate Valley at about a 7-7.5 overall and Mountain around 6-6.5. Highly playable and the most notable improvement over the old management regime was that the rough on both 9’s is now well established at around 1-2 inches on average. Players who frequented the old course would know (and lament) that an integral part of the design were the mounds surrounding many fairways which were supposed to work in tandem with the rough to deflect balls back into play and to keep them out of the numerous native areas lining the course. A testament to this improvement – as noted above – is that I played 18 with the same ball. Unheard of, really, for this place.

Parting Thoughts

Things that still represent deficits? The carts have no GPS which makes a course this tough hard to negotiate. Local knowledge helped me a lot. And, there appears to be no way to book other than through their web utility, so no discounts can be had. I would prefer to pay about 70 max here on a Sunday at prime time, rather than the $90 I did. Also, no marshal which you would expect on a higher end course. While not very busy, pace was still a sluggish 4 hours 20 minutes on what is now a shortish course.

But overall I am happy to report this place is back! If, like me, you were avoiding it due to recent reports, go back out and give it a whirl (and try to get on Valley/Desert combo (the old Valley 18) as it has more length and coherency to it than the 2 nines I played).

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Golf Course Review Olivas Links Ventura California

Olivas Links

Golf Course Review Olivas Links Ventura, CA

Reviewed by: kviser, Saugus, CA

ALERT: Aeration
Will be aerating the greens 10/8 & 10/9.

Golf Playing Conditions 7.58 GREAT
Golf Playing Conditions 7.58 GREAT

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Played yesterday afternoon, riding with a course “End of Summer” special for $28 after 2:00. It was not crowded until about hole 6 where we started to hit the back end of the groups ahead. Pace was about 2 hours for the front and 2.5 hours for the back. The last four holes became a brutal hit and wait scenario: As many as five groups were on hole 16; a twosome on the green, two twosomes in the fairway, a single on the tee, and our threesome on the tee. Add to that there were so many little flies, landing on and biting us. Gross!

Greens were good. Very soft and rolling medium fast. I fixed many ball marks. The putting surface was soft and bumpy at times, but rolled decently for the most part.

Fairways were soft as well. Good coverage and mostly lush conditions. Despite being so soft, there was great roll on most shots. Occasionally there were some tight lies. I was agreed that the surface was great to hit from.

Rough was also consistently lush from tee to green. No real problems hitting from there either. Outside the mowed areas of rough there was the usual deep kikuyu grass. If you hit there you can pretty much forget about it. The course has reduced the size of those areas over the years, but they are still there and ready to claim errant shots.

Bunkers were nice; well-raked, light-colored sand. I was in one on hole 3 and it was in good shape.

Tee boxes (we played the whites) were mostly level and nice. I think there were a couple areas that were a little uneven, but overall good.

Other than those pesky flies and the pace near the end of the round, it was a very enjoyable afternoon.

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Golf Course Review PGA WEST Stadium Course La Quinta California

PGA WEST (Stadium Course)

Golf Course Review PGA WEST Stadium Course La Quinta, CA

ALERT: Aeration & Overseeding
Greens were aerated 7/23 – 8/2. Course will be closed for overseeding 10/8 – 10/31, reopening 11/1 and cart path only until 11/29.
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Reviewed by: zeppelin51423, manhattan beach

Golf Playing Conditions 7.93 GREAT
Golf Playing Conditions 7.93 GREAT

Played Stadium on Saturday & conditions were excellent. During the summer, I always rate courses in desert relative to other desert courses, not to how they are in the winter or peak season. The conditions from tee to green were great. The greens were firm and rolled true. The grain in the Bermuda largely impacts the smoothness and speed. Down grain putts rolled excellent and fairly fast. The fairways were perfect. The only complaint would be the rock hard bunkers. I’d probably avoid many of the desert courses over the next month or so as they close for over-seeding. I’ll be back in November!

All in all, the stadium course is a solid test of golf and I largely enjoy teeing it up there.

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GK Cup FINAL Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California

Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California

Eagle Glen Golf Club

Golf Course Review Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona, CA

Reviewed by: Alex326, Monterey, Ca

Golf Playing Conditions 6.77 GOOD
Golf Playing Conditions 6.77 GOOD

Made the trek down to Eagle Glen for the GK CUP final. I had three agenda’s for making this trip.

 

Begin Lobbying for GK Cup 13 Final to be held in Northern California (hopefully bribing JohnnyGK with a round at Pebble Beach helped)!!!

Enforce dress code violations and award style points as the official GK fashion police (sorry Johnny but Perry got the nod with the matching shirt, shoe laces and hat)

And most importantly enjoy a bit of golf with some great, no scratch that, fantastic bunch of GK’ers.

This is my first time playing Eagle Glen and I must say it’s a super fun layout. Lot’s of elevation changes and like Nickesquire said, the front nine is mainly target golf with several holes demanding less than driver off the tee.

Condition wise the course was decent all around. Nothing spectacular but nothing horrible either. The first few greens were bumpy but then they smoothed out. Greens were soft and very receptive to approach shots. I never had an issue with a lie in the fairway but a couple of the tee boxes were trashed.

I avoided the bunkers all day so I’ll let Roarksown1 give a report on the sand traps.

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Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California Hole 2
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Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California Hole 5

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Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California Hole 7
Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California Hole 7

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Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California Hole 16
Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California Hole 16

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I don’t know if I’ll ever be in the area again to play this course a second time but if given the opportunity, I certainly won’t pass it up.

I was disappointed that I didn’t get to do a wardrobe change at the turn. Might just have to wait til’ Pebble to debut that outfit…..

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Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California
Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California

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Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California GK CUP Winner HmtGolfGuy
Eagle Glen Golf Club Corona California GK CUP Winner HmtGolfGuy

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GK Guru Visit Paradise Valley Golf Course Fairfield California

GK Guru Visit Paradise Valley Golf Club

Golf Course Review for Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield, CA

Reviewed by: JohnnyGK, Thousand Oaks

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Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 2
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Golf Playing Conditions 6.60 GOOD
Golf Playing Conditions 6.60 GOOD

Next up on my 36 hole day yesterday in Fairfield was Paradise Valley Golf Course. The golf course also provides very great conditions and contrasts Rancho Solano Golf Club excellently for a second 18.

Teed it up again with Alex326 and BSF at 1:30pm. Brandon unfortunately could not join for the next 18 so we went out as a 3-some. Great time.

Before our round although we grabbed a bite to in grill/sports bar. I had a delicious Clubhouse wrap that was so big that I finished it out on the course. Recommend making a little time before your round to eat there.

For our twilight round we waited a little here and there but overall pace of play was around 4 ½ hours.

Greens, in great shape, little bit faster than Rancho Solano, mostly smooth and little bit more firm. Not as undulating and certainly not as big but definitely challenging. The greens are better guarded by bunkers and pins can be set in tough spots. You need to be careful not to be behind the pins out there. They can be slick coming back. Star of the show from a conditions standpoint and given the high amount of play this track gets, impressive.

Fairways, firm, mostly lush with occasional thin spots. It’s a level golf course so you get some good run out.

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Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 14
Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 14

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Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 12

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Rough, cut low, about an inch above the fairway height, mostly lush with occasional thin spots. Green-side rough is more lush and a little longer than adjacent to the fairways.

Bunkers, quality sand, little firm at times but in good shape.

Tee boxes, we played the white tees which get by far most of the play so they had some divot damage but driving by the blue and black tees, they looked near perfect, so to mixed feelings here about how to rate them.

Service excellent, very friendly staff, and talkative. Saw the cart girl many times. Everyone had a good attitude.

Highly recommended.

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Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 17
Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 17

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Paradise Valley Golf Club Fairfield California Hole 18
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Golf Course Review PGA WEST Greg Norman Course La Quinta California

PGA WEST (Greg Norman Course)

Golf Course Review PGA WEST Greg Norman Coruse in La Quinta, CA

Reviewed by: Nickesquire, Rancho Mirage, CA

Golf Playing Conditions 6.86 GOOD
Golf Playing Conditions 6.86 GOOD

Rode the Blues (6671/72.8/133) in slightly over 3H using Forelinx. The weather was clear, breezy and around 100.

Under rated, unique layout. If you are around a green, it is mowed as fairway and plays like a links style course encouraging bump/runs or putting from well off the green. You need to manage the course and AVOID the bunkers here more so than on most courses. Numerous holes have 6-8 fairway bunkers that are more severe that the average golfer is used to navigating through. Green side bunkers are deep and large. The difficulty factor is deceptive and I like the visuals that the holes present. Almost every hole has a forced carry over desert scape, but the fairways are very generous in size.

The tee boxes are huge, level and very nicely maintained.

The fairways were lush & well maintained. Few unfixed divots, but they are currently mowed high, so not alot of roll.

Really no rough to speak of because the fairways go straight from fairway to desert scape. The only grass maintained higher than the fairways is a strip around the sand traps.

The sand traps are plentiful and decently maintained with good quality sand.

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The firm greens had good coverage but were woefully slow.

The customer service throughout the staff was exceptional. Nice grass range with complimentary balls, nice sand/chipping and practice putting areas that closely resembled the on course conditions. Good GPS on carts. Complementary bottled water in the ice chest, and the cart gal was out making the rounds. Definitely recommended.

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Golf Course Review The Golf Club at Rancho California Murrieta California

The Golf Club at Rancho California

Golf Course Review Golf Club at Rancho California in Murrieta, CA

Reviewed by: HmtGolfGuy, Hemet, CA

Golf Playing Conditions 6.24 GOOD
Golf Playing Conditions 6.24 GOOD

Player 9/25 going out at 8:40 – was booked as a single but paired up with Brian on the tee, nice guy, good stick and good company.

First and most important – this is currently CART PATH ONLY. Those who know the course understand that can lead to some VERY long walks with 1/3 of your bag in hand to have the right club when you finally get there. Even so, POP was an easy 4 hours despite waiting on several holes due to a slower 4 some a couple holes ahead.

Tees and fairways ranged from a little shaggy to a lot shaggy, with the fairways being pretty soft w/little to no run-out. Greens are coming around nicely, first few hadn’t been cut but when we reached the ones that had and the sun/wind dried them out they pick up quite a bit of pace. Back nine you could barely tell they’d been punched and all rolled true.

Bunkers leave a little to be desired, half & half sand/dirt mix that was quite “heavy” but at least they’re consistent and reasonably playable.

Overall it was worth the price but with the cart path only I’d say just barely – once that limitation is gone I’d definitely recommend it.

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Recent Golf Course Review Goose Creek Golf Club Mira Loma California

Goose Creek Golf Club

Golf Course Review Goose Creek Golf Club Mira Loma, CA

Reviewed by: chevelle, Norco

ALERT: Aeration
Will be aerating the greens 10/8 & 10/9.
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Golf Playing Conditions 7.51 GREAT
Golf Playing Conditions 7.51 GREAT

Played Tues Sept 25th at 7.06, staff was great as usual, we were a walking 2 some and the second group out for the day. A riding 2 some in front of us and NO one behind us. Pace of Play (POP) was great at 3:12 hours.

We took a few extra putts and chips on hole #2 to let the 2 some get in front of us a little more and it worked, actually didn’t see them again until the back 9. The weather was overcast and being out there was fantastic by yourself, a really nice fall day.

Now about the course, everyone knows Goose has great conditions and the front 9 were not bad, as usual the traps were a little hard, but fairways and greens were acceptable. The back nine was a different story starting on #12, they cut the fairways real low and left dead grass on 4 or 5 fairways on the back nine, it was like playing ground under repair the entire fairway. It is obvious that they are getting ready to punch the fairways, so, in my honest opinion, if you have never played Goose and are planning to go and experience it, please wait for the course maintenance to heal before you go so you can get the real Goose course.

Truthfully the back nine was not nice to play yesterday. If you have played it, just know that the course is under maintenance and don’t expect too much.